[Louis A. Brennan et al. (1962)] We have found just one of these at Kettle Rock and they are certainly not prominent in what we have named the Q tradition along the Hudson, which is the narrow-bladed point tradition and which certainly has roots in the preceramic here, as we know from our Winterich site. Nor was the quartzite, so prominent in the Q tradition, a favored material of these Crawbuckie Vinette I people. There is plenty of quartzite at Crawbuckie, but it is with the narrow, short pattern of points we have come to expect to find it with. Tentatively, then, we conclude that Vinette I-like pottery arrived in this vicinity with these Crawbuckie people, since their Vinette I ware differs a little, or we fancy that it differs a little, from that at Kettle Rock, with the Kettle Rock ware being thinner and somewhat more expert looking. We have always believed that these first Vinette I carriers arrived from the south and the pottery making trait was transmitted by them to the narrow-blade point makers of the Q tradition who were the continuing population in this section of the Hudson from indubitably pre-ceramic times. The Vinette I carriers from the south did not become dominant in this area by any evidence we have come across but seem, rather, to have acculturated with the Q tradition people, influencing their point styles and, possibly, their bannerstone styles while merging otherwise into the living pattern of the long-native population.